Try Begging Me - Chapter 39
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TheQueenB
Aww, so now you’re calling him ‘complex’ like that magically balances out torture, rape, and fascism? Sweetie, if someone shows traits of both a psychopath and a sociopath, that doesn’t make him layered — it makes him dangerous. You’re comparing him to Thomas Shelby like that’s a personality flex, when all it shows is that your bar for morality is ‘hot with trauma.’ And no Chapter 6 makes it very clear those torture techniques were passed down from Richard, not rebels. Grace’s POV confirms she was horrified by what they did not what she made up. Let’s be real both sides used women as tools of war like you said both trash, and the only actual victim here is Grace. Aww, so now you’re calling him ‘complex’ like that magically balances out torture, rape, and fascism? Sweetie, if someone shows traits of both a psychopath and a sociopath, that doesn’t make him layered — it makes him dangerous. You’re comparing him to Thomas Shelby like that’s a personality flex, when all it shows is that your bar for morality is ‘hot with trauma.’ And no — Chapter 6 makes it very clear those torture techniques were passed down from Richard, not rebels. Grace’s POV confirms she was horrified by what they did — not what she made up. Let’s be real: both sides used women as tools of war, and the only actual victim here is Grace. But I get it facts tend to ruin a good simp fantasy, don’t they?”
Awsomegirl
@sarasanserif You sound like a budget history major trying to justify torture with ‘that’s just how it is, sweetie like war crimes suddenly become character development when it turns you on. Being a spy doesn’t mean someone deserves rape, unless you’re so far gone you think basic human rights, like the Geneva Conventions banning torture, just stop applying if the abuser is hot enough. Your brain’s doing backflips to defend a bootlicker’s kink fantasy. This isn’t realism it’s rot dressed up as romance, and you’re cheering it on like a broke villain groupie.
sarasanserif
@Awsomegirl when it comes to “being a spy doesn’t justify rape and torture”. You must green around the ears and more delusional than the Revolutionary army if you thought real life or fictional spies don’t go through awful things in their line of work.
sarasanserif
@Awsomegirl Awww don’t worry sweetheart, we will stay delusional, while you cry and scream in the comments section with each chapter trying to be self serving over a work of fiction. Well funny enough you are right and wrong about Leon though. He is a psychopath and he also isn’t. Again you need to look up the whole definition of the word. Leon is basically Thomas Shelby but a Royalist, he exhibits both Psychopathy and Sociopathy at the same time, that’s what makes him such a complex character, but I guess you wouldn’t care since you only see black and white. I will have to reread the chapter about the toture techniques, but I could have sworn I read a POV of Grace where she said it was invented by the rebels. They don’t play nice either. Both sides were total trash.
Awsomegirl
@sarasanserif You keep screaming ‘she’s a spy’ like that justifies torture and rape but Chapter 6 makes it clear: it was Leon’s father, Richard, who invented the torture playbook nail-pulling, whipping, psychological destruction all done to revolutionaries. The rebels didn’t create that cycle, they survived it. Leon didn’t inherit trauma, he inherited sadism and chose to romanticize it. That’s not a sociopath, that’s a fullblown psychopath: calm, calculated, power-obsessed, using pain as performance. And no ,saying it’s ‘just fiction’ doesn’t save you sweethart when it’s inspired by real historical fascism and war crimes. You’re not separating fiction from reality you’re escaping accountability by fetishizing abuse. If this is your idea of complex storytelling, you’re not edgy just emotionally bankrupt and weirdly comfortable siding with rapist sadists. Stay delusional ☺️
sarasanserif
@Awsomegirl I think a lot of readers like yourself have forgotten the fact that she is a literal spy?
Are people so naive to the fact that female spies face worse treatment than this when they get caught? You are all so caught up in your emotions right now you can’t even tell the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath properly. Leons torture techniques didn’t come from nowhere either. The Rebels did that to his father, killing him in the process. He in turn used those same methods on present rebels to get his infamous reputation. Maybe the translations aren’t up to par for us to fully understand the story, but if you can’t separate fiction from reality and start calling people rapist sympathizers simply because they like the theme of the story then I suggest you read something more light hearted and stop bothering us in the comments section. Its getting really boring reading all your whiny complaints.
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I feel bad for Grace because she is being manipulated and used and she doesn’t fall into the right hands…
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He reminds me of Mathias in “Cry If You Beg” the same bastard….but he’s Mathias worse
Awsomegirl
@Fj Chan I disagree Leon Winston is a psychopath, not a sociopath. Psychopaths are cold, calculating, and emotionally detached, while sociopaths are more impulsive and emotionally reactive. Leon plans his cruelty with precision, manipulates with charm, and shows zero remorse, all classic psychopathic traits. His abuse isn’t chaotic or emotional it’s methodical, ideological, and terrifyingly controlled.
Fj Chan
Psychopath- Introvert
Sociopath- Extrovert
since leon is extroverted he is Sociopath
sulaka
Just stop reading if yall are just gonna whine
Awsomegirl
@Isis_Stardust His father was a Psychopath ,a fashist and a cheater who also totured the revelutionary ,and now he to his techniques and should we simp for the rapist because he got his feelings hurt ? secondly he’s Psychopath not a Sociopath because of his toture and what he will do to her later.
Isis_Stardust
Don’t wanna be the devils advocate, but she is also guilty, her family and fiancee used her for murder wether we want to admit it or not, the betrayal broke him as well at a very young age, I mean, he basically became a sociopath. After they killed his dad. I’m not defending what he is doing to her but it didn’t come out of the blue.
shnmco
ohmygooood he is becoming ugly looking
Mitchxy
Pervert i hate you doing that to her
Bhuviii
Which chapter is this in the light novel ?
Lee seob
@callidora if u read the Ln it is a roller coaster of emotions in Ln te torture r more brutal and after this story will turn to a interesting part either u like it or not
callidora
Tbh it’s boring can they speed up the story and/or change it up? He’s doing the same things over and over, get creative author
GreenMint
Thats so hot but, its grape, IDK WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE 😭😩
Chibisuke
Shortt!! Very short